Bahuns have become even stronger than before after abolition of monarchy
Dr. Krishna Bhattachan is not a new name for the regular readers of the Telegraph Weekly. He has contributed several articles on contemporary issues to this weekly that have been well appreciated by the readers both within and without. Notably, he has presented working papers for the Telegraph Weekly sponsored seminars in the past.
He is straight forward in pushing his views that at times invite serious criticisms from among his own colleagues and detractors as well.
In the recent years, Dr. Bhattachan associated himself with the areas of his specialization such as Modernization and Development; Sociological Theory; Ethnicity; Indigenous Peoples; Gender, Dalit Issues, Madhesi Issues, Inclusion; Conflict Analysis; Conflict Resolution; Advocacy; and Impact Monitoring & Evaluation and highly contributed to attract the attention of the government towards the genuine issues of the indigenous people.
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He is amicable. He is a modest scholar who could not be dismissed easily for his logical comments.
Last week, we approached this long time friend to share his exclusive views on contemporary issues. He agreed and here are the results: Chief Editor.
TGQ1: Federalism based on ethnicity/linguistic and regionalism, or the administrative federalism and or federalism with autonomy/self determination, have become a matter of intensively debated topic among the federalists basically. From the Janajati perspective, Dr. Bhattachan, considering that regions as such are socio-culturally more heterogeneous by nature, how can we justify which among all the outlined alternatives can help us build an inclusive Nepal with no future confrontation, more so, no possibility for the much feared secession?
Dr.
Concerning your question about heterogeneous socio-cultural composition, we need to recall history, gaze at present and look at the future. Bahun-Chetri’s encroachment in indigenous peoples’ land started from the far-west and mid-west and continued to the east and finally in the Terai. The policies, plans and programs of the State were indeed in favour of the encroachers and against indigenous peoples. By now Bahun-Chhetris has spread out their populations in all 75 districts of
Different groups of people are seeking autonomy in different ways. Indigenous peoples are seeking it on ethnic grounds and Madhesis are seeking it on regional grounds. Some Madhesis are seeking it on linguistic grounds. I believe these all groups should exercise their right to self-determination to decide on what basis they want to realize autonomous states and whether the nature of autonomy should be single ethnic identity, comprehensive ethnic identity or some may even opt either self-rule within autonomous states or be directly under the federal government. It, however, needs to be guaranteed that each caste/ethnic, language and regional groups have their autonomous states of their choice, which, I believe, would be some where in between 10 to 30. Such a process would prevent different groups from engaging in confrontations.
To make the autonomous states inclusive, proportional representation, special measures or affirmative actions and guarantee of minority rights must be ensured through constitutional and legal provisions. However, voting rights and rights to be elected should not be given to people of other autonomous states who are interested either to continue or come to live in states other than their own.
Secession in a unitary state is difficult as long as the rulers are dictators or justice givers. But if injustice prevails for long, secession is inevitable. Listing nine lessons learnt from experience of federalism and autonomy in different countries, Prof. Yas Ghai writes, “autonomy does not promote secession, instead, true autonomy prevents secession.” UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples was adopted by the General Assembly on September 13, 2007. Almost all the member countries, including
TGQ2: Dr. Bhattachan you are the sharp critic of the Bahunbad, how has the Brahmin legacy contributed to the making of the exclusive State that
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Mr. Upadhyaya, you know very well that my views about Bahunbadis and Bahun has nothing to do with them as persons. It is indeed about the public issues. Otherwise how come that I have many friends and well wishers like you and many other Bahuns and vice verca. I agree to disagree with ideas but not with persons. It is for sure that if my Bahun friends like you also thought of that I engage in personal attack against the Bahuns, I do not think that you and I would continue to maintain cordial and friendly relations and that you would give me opportunity frequently either to present a paper in seminars organized by or publish interviews and articles in your esteemed paper The Telegraph Weekly if I should be attack Bahuns personally.
TGQ3: With the formation of the Constituent Assembly there is the considerable presence of the janajatis in the legislative body. Now that the demand for the CA has been met with, how is the Janajati leadership preparing to get their issues addressed in the CA finally? What challenges the Janajati issues might face in the CA for the next two years or so?
Dr. Krishna B. Bhattachan: Mr. Upadhaya, you should recall that indigenous peoples’ movement had demanded for fully proportional representation on the basis of caste/ethnicity, sex and region based on population size and ensuring at least one representation of each caste and ethnic groups. The rule of the game of electoral politics was made unfair but conscious voters detected and weeded them out making constituent assembly more representative. It is indeed a result of the indigenous peoples’ movement and contribution of a decade long insurgency that indigenous women and men have significant representation which is in par with official population size. They all come from 25 different political parties but not from their respective caste/ethnic communities. Hence they carry bodies of indigenous peoples but they are bound to speak the language of their respective parties than their indigenous peoples’ communities. If the members should vote on articles related to right to self determination and ethnic autonomy, will Nepali Congress and NCP (UML) allow members who belong to different indigenous peoples community allow to vote in favour if the party issue a whip to vote against the proposition?
The bad intention of political parties against indigenous peoples has become clear after failure to respect 20 points agreement done on August 7, 2007 between the Nepal Government and Nepal Federation of Indigenous Nationalities and Indigenous Nationality Joint Struggle Committee. Instead of nominating indigenous peoples who have been left out by the direct and proportional elections, the seven political parties are not willing to give all the seats as agreed.
We know that right to self determination and ethnic, linguistic and regional autonomy is going to be the most controversial issue to be decided in its favour or against. The current power structure of the constituent assembly in which none of the political parties and social groups have absolute majority, the new constitution would fail to incorporate it. Indigenous peoples movement is fully preparing to exert strong pressure from the street while constituent assembly members from indigenous peoples community continue their struggle within the constituent assembly. In spite of mounting pressure from indigenous peoples movement, if the constituent assembly should fail to ensure ethnic autonomy, it is for sure that indigenous peoples would be forced to generate peoples movement or insurgency led by indigenous peoples. If it should happen, indigenous peoples have nothing to loose, but to win.
In the past the main challenges faced by indigenous peoples were monarchy and the
TGQ4: Dr. Bhattachan what say you of the continuing political deadlock? The Nepali Congress is blamed for creating the deadlock by the Communists? Some even say that extraneous forces both near and far are contributing to the deadlock. Do you agree or disagree?
Dr.
TGQ5: It is widely believed that the possible left alliance will mar the entire democratic process. Do you see such a possibility as is alleged a communist dictator in offing? What would be your opinion in this regard?
Further information on Dr. Bhattachan:
EDUCATION
Ph.D., Sociology,
M.A., Sociology,
B.A., Political Science,
Intensive English and Academic Orientation for Foreign Graduate Students,
Attended a course on Conflict Resolution, Postwar Reconstruction and Development Unit (PRDU),
AREAS OF SPECIALIZATION
Modernization and Development; Sociological Theory; Ethnicity; Indigenous Peoples; Gender, Dalit Issues, Madhesi Issues, Inclusion; Conflict Analysis; Conflict Resolution; Advocacy; and Impact Monitoring & Evaluation.
RATOS: R=Research; A=Advocacy; T=Teaching/Training; O=
SCHOLARSHIPS AND AWARDS
Senior Chevening Fellow at the Post-War Recosntruction and Development Unit (PRDU), University of York, York, awarded by Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the United Kingdom, January 16 to April 7, 2006.
Honoured with a Plaque of Recognition by the Dalit NGO Federation (DNF) in
Honored with a Letter of Honour by the Sociology/Anthropology Student Association (SASAN) and Free Student's
Honoured with a Plaque of Recognition by the
Mahendra-Vidya Bhusan Class-A Medal awarded by His Majesty King Birendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev, February 24, 1994.
Fulbright-Hays Scholarship,
Award for scoring the highest marks in M.A. (Pre.) Sociology, Banaras Hindu University, Banaras, India, 1980.
Intelligent Student Award, Prithvi Narayan Campus, Tribhuvan University, Nepal, 1976-1977.
ASSOCIATION WITH PROFESSIONAL, VOLUNTARY AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS
Team Member, NEFIN’s Dialogue Team to talk with Nepal Government’s Dialgute Team now led by Ramchandra Paudel (Previosuly by Mahanta Thakur), Since March 2007.
Member, Steering Committee, South Asian Sociology Society (SASS), Since December 23, 2005.
Advisor, National Coalition against Racial Discrimination (NCARD),
Advisor, Online Journal of Inclusive Democracy, Since 2004.
Advisor,
Recent Publications
"Nepalese Buddhists' View of Hinduism," Pp. 227-239. In: Jerald D. Gort, Henry Jansen and Hendrik M. Vroom (Eds.) Religions View Religions. Explorations in Pursuit of Understanding. 2006.
Book Reviews: Towards a democratic
Coauthor (with Sarah Websetr).Indigenous Peoples, Poverty Reduction and Conflict in
Comments (16)
badi bahun chettri ko birod matra garnu vanda janjati ko istar ukasne kam tira lagna thik hun6.
Dr. Bhattachan is totally right. Even we don't see any chhetri in key post in political parties.
vattachan le dherai had samma indiginious nationalities ko perspective bata aafno kura rakhnu hun6. tara uhako rakhne sailee prati bahunbadi sochle grasta manchhe haru darauchhan, ghinauchhan ra sarapchhan. teso garnu vanda bahunbadi darsan bata guided nepali society lai sachhaunu jaruri chha. so ko lagi nepal ko mul kanun ma uniharuko rights lai sunischhit garda vaihalchha ni kina kalpana ji jasto 'okhre' gali garera mukh bitalnu. ra next kura bhattachan po newyork ma basera pade hola, yehaka indiginous students ta school dekhekai chhainan, dekhe pani khas kurale tarsera school chhadnu pareko 6.
Yet another half-learned one! What a waste of Berkeley PhD!
padheka murkha, afnu aang ko bhaisi nadekhne, jani jani buch pachaune, aruko matra dosh dekhaune, sadhai mitho matra kura garne byakti sanga sadhai daraunu hai babu, bhanthe hamra baba le.. ti byakti hun bhattachan... ti padheka murkhle malai jawaf diun... ke ma bahun chhetri hunuma mero dos ho....london ko sukhasayal ma hurkera...pad ko lagi sasto lokpriyata line byakti ho bhattachan. hami bahun chhetri le ke paye ka chhau.... london ma basera naya nepal ko kalpana nagarau..... new york ra london ko sahar ma narabaji garera tibet free hndaina............
This debate should take place, but not in the Bhattachan way. His ideas are highly revengeful as he puts everything on Bahun. Maybe some Bahuns are responsible for this situation. Is it only because of Bahun? And can Bhattachan ever claim that he has not contributed to any injustices? Pointing finger to the world is always easy. What is his moral basis? In what ways his dream nations (so called ganarajyas or small feudal/tribal groups) ensure inclusion? Has he gone through injustices prevailed in pre-Unified Nepal (he may not buy into this though!) ganarajyas? Has Bhattachan looked into his own practices? How hegemonic is he? How disempowering are his practices?
This is the future of nepal - educated, revengeful, spiteful.
स्वस्थ सोचाइ होइन। भट्टचन डा'सावले किन समुच्च सोच बिकास गर्न सक्नुभएन, मलाई अचम्म लाग्छ। हो हामीमा समस्या छन्। तर वहांको भाषाले निर्माण गरेको extreme fantasy जस्तो छैन। अरुका राम्रा कुरालाई पनि देख्ने प्रयत्न गर्नु पर्छ। Extreme ethnocentrism ले मान्छेलाई अन्धो बनाउंछ र अन्त्यमा tribalism र अपार्थाइड सोचलाई बढवा दिन्छ। पैले मलाइ यि डा'सावका कुरा राम्रा लाग्थे। तर पछि पछी यीनका कुरा hate मिसिन थाल्यो। यीनका कुरा हदै सिम्बिलिक छन र त्यो एप्रोचले नेपाल भोलिभिया जस्तै हुनेछ।
The current trends as greatly lobbying by Dr.Bhattachan,by spitting out poison about the communal harmony and national unity among the diversity would likely be in great risk and threat.So,all intellectuals circles and peace-loving people of the grealand,Nepal need to be aware of such provocation against welfare of all community living in the single country and dare to come forwrad to boycotting such unhealthy debate.
The writer is merely reflecting the ground reailty on a piece of paper; I do not see anything that construe his racism. He is not against Bahun; but he is talking about ism or Bahunism in plain. Simply because of this ism, the whole Bahun seems to have involved that is not case. Most importantly the writer is not targetting any individual of any particular cast; what he is talking is the idealogical differences that is affecting the other either directly or indirectly.
I think Mr. Bhattachan is correct and the first step to eliminate bahunbaad is to join Mongol National Organization by all the smart Mulbasis so that they can leadm their own people rather than being just a puppets of Bahunbaads.f they sauy it is communal what would they say about their discrimination and caste system which is a shame in international community.
Its natural, how one blind can avoid another one, so you both are blind Dipesh. Do you know does it means Bahunbad?? Dr. Bhattachan himself is a inheriently bahunbadi, if you have any doubt please let me tell his history.
Its mere example of pulling the legs..i congratulate Dr. for having real character of nepalese
Ethnocentrism is one of many perspectives to view the present state-aparatus of Nepal. However, embracing exclusively this view can also be limiting, restraining and hypocritic in many ways. Bhattachan refers to Baral's recent book "Bahunbad" which is very much based on parochiality rather than holistic evidences. I am not sure whether Bhattachan's uncritical critics of Bahuns can really do good for the country. I guess a kind of hate has been mixed in the name of of his so-called academic perspective
Mr Bhattachan unquestional speaker for indigenous nationalities. Its true monarchy finish and now we've to finish Bahunbad. Of course specially NC and UML are anty indigenous so they got sack on election of constitution assebley. Even though moist have bahunbad, they encouge us for the movement and educate us for our right either way. Still if they fallow the bahun bad next will be maoist to exile from history like monarchy. For the issue of indigenous peoples I'm blind fallower of Dr Bhattachan.
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Bahuns are not supposed to eat pork, buffaloes, beef and also indulge in alcohol. But nowadays bahuns are doing all this. This is one example of how bahuns changes over time. Bahuns are opportunistic and greedy. Bahuns brought the chatur-varna into Nepal when they migrated from India. The Vishnu Purano mentioned that chatur-varna was absent in the Kirat desh or the land of Kirat. Hence there wasn't any discrimination through caste system and so on in Nepal. Nepal would only progress when people from janajatis start taking political roles and becoming PM/President of Nepal. Just take a look of Sikkim. 15 years ago and now when PM of Sikkim is Pawan Chamling Rai for these past 10 years. Just look at the changes the Sikkim has went through. Corruption is at the lowest and discrimination barely exist in Sikkim while development of Sikkim is uphill.