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Nepal Perspective: Can India afford war with China?

Niraj Aryal

Niraj Aryal, Kathmandu: A country plagued with continued internal conflicts, a beleaguered nation with decades long armed insurgency in the North-East, Muslim population fighting for independent State in Kashmir since the very first day of the partition and now the overshoot of overtly boasted economic prosperity-the violent Maoist insurgency in the country’s most underprivileged states, can India afford War with either Pakistan or China or at worst both together?

However, Indian academics, warn their Government to remain ever prepared to fight China come year 2012 by improving its defense system.

Pretty nervous Indian academics give a very absurd reason for the War that is going to take place in the year 2012 as they opine in a some what frustrated manner?

“…that China will attack India by 2012 to divert the attention of its own people from unprecedented internal dissent, growing unemployment and financial problems that are threatening the hold of Communists in that country, claims Bharat Verma, Editor of the Indian Defense Review.

"China will launch an attack on the soft target- India before 2012. There are multiple reasons for a desperate Beijing to teach India the final lesson, thereby ensuring Chinese supremacy in Asia in this century," Verma is quoted by one of the Indian media.

Among other reasons for this assessment were rising unemployment, flight of capital worth billions of dollars, depletion of its foreign exchange reserves and the ever increasing internal dissent, Verma said in an editorial in the forthcoming issue of the premier defense journal of India.(Source: Indian Express)

At least looking into the Indian anxiety from Kathmandu lens, whether the southern neighbor, Nepal’s self proclaimed big brother any way, can afford war with China or not is not at all debatable …with China equipped with world’s largest military and virtually surrounding India in the Indian Ocean from Sri Lanka to Pakistan and most importantly, India’s neighboring countries of late preferring to side with China including natural gas enriched Myanmar, India is sure to loose the 2012 battle with the northern neighbor, if that happens at all.

If the prediction of the Indian academics is to come true, not only China, come 2012 India is sure to be at war in at least four different fronts, all together.

First and the foremost, India is to prepare itself to fight the internal insurgencies that it claims as to have been funded by China and morally supported by internal political forces such as that with the Naxals and ULFA and a host of similar insurgencies.

Second, a war with nuclear Pakistan looks inevitable, as India continues to create unrest in Baluchistan and support local Taliban outfits in the Swat valley, Pakistan’s patience is tested here.

And thirdly, at war with mediocre neighbors, such as Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka sans Bhutan for understandable reasons. India can not just ignore this proposition as well. Bhutan’s patience is also being tested, after all for how long it will continue to bow down to the Indian Gods to protect its ruthless regime.

What India can do to avert this war is quite simple as well?

Rather than concentrating on further irritating smaller neighbors like Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, India should learn on how to “behave” with sovereign nation’s in the neighborhood.

Here are some important tips for India.

First, respect the sovereignty of the smaller neighbors.

India should stop unnecessarily meddling in the internal matters of the countries in the backyard and immediately recall those erratic undiplomatic envoys, for example Sood of the Talibani fame, who behave as if he were the viceroys of the colonist India.

India must also stop nurturing Terrorists in the neighborhood such as that of the LTTE and those Madhesi armed outfits based in India that are terrorizing Nepali citizens.

India can at best stop playing the dangerous game of using the US card against China with which it shares great economic interests. By the way, India should also keep it in mind that the US is also with Pakistan and China.

India must also stop provoking anti-China elements in the neighborhood as it has been doing it from the Nepalese soil.

Rather than building up its defense at the cost of the millions and millions of destitute citizens who barely get two meals a day, India should finally mend its own erratic ways in dealing with the neighbors who still possess some love for India.

Posted on : 2009-07-14 08:29:57

Comments (101)


Commented by shyam - September 1, 2010 @ 12:35 AM

o reading the above article i could not decide what would be happened be 2012 most learned man guessed that upto 2012 this world would be collepsed actually i think it is sure there is not peace in the world peopel are quarring even neighbers also starvation floods natural calamities all the against the human nature how huma nature can resist the all calamities and trouble certenly not as for example as a smallest country nepal there is been long dispute among the politician they are not be able to settle a government leader there is dispute why if they all are for the people and nation they must settle there disputed by there coopration but just it is reversed so being i a small thinking person i can say nothing let it think to the big leader thank you

Commented by T . singh - August 28, 2010 @ 4:07 PM

actually, India captured so many countries under the name of hindutav for example ; punjab was a country before and sikh's ruled over it, in the 1800's all the way to the 1849, then british took over the punjab , when they left india they left punjab with india. punjab has no resemblance with india, they're culture they're language ,food everything is different. and india is supressing punjabi's against they're will. they want to destroy all the sikh's in every way, by putting them on drugs and also not letting them study english, they're forcing them to learn hindi. and they want to kill their mother language. Therefor, punjabi's are proud to be Punjabi and NOT Indian. Sikh's were in indian army, and they covered 98% of it, in 1984. but now they are 2% of it. gurkah's and sikh's are the only martials in indian army. But if india goes to war now, it will be a different experience for india. They can fight with pakistan bangladesh, sri lanka, but they cannot fight with china , they're to weak.

Commented by manisha koirala - August 26, 2010 @ 6:56 AM

this is pure hatred comments...wake up to new realities of love,commppasion n prosper!!! share your loving touhghts n how we can connect n become better!!! i m sadden by arrogance n short sightedness...its one world...i pray fr you all...

Commented by SHR Bangladesh - August 12, 2010 @ 5:16 PM

India is not a country but a region. No ‘Indian’ feel proud as ‘Indian’ rather than ‘I am Gujrati’, ‘I am Bangali’, ‘I am Punjabi’, etc. As a country, India is one of the worst nations in the world; none of its neighbours has good relation with India due to its criminal activities against the neighbouring small countries. India has already gobbled up Bhutan and Maldives, crippled Nepal, wounded seriously Sri Lanka, choking Bangladesh and has permanent enmity with Pakistan and China. So, what kind of nation India is? I am sure that once India gets in war with China, it would be fractioned automatically into many peaces- there would be no India any more on earth. As a Bangladeshi, I know how India chokes us in every way. Almost all Bangladeshi hates like hell and as far I know, it is the same picture in Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and China. So, time is coming when all would be united to treat India well. Let China be our better friend. It is said that an enemy of home is more dangerous that the enemy of far distance. India is our enemy at home which is more harmful to us than USA and China.

Commented by RM - July 2, 2010 @ 8:37 AM

I had done my schooling from Darjeeling where students from Nepal, Bhutan, Bangaladesh and few from Srilanka came to study. During those days we use to quarrel on the same issues as to which country is stronger, what would happen if this country attacked that country etc. As I grew up I thought these are nothing more than figments of childrens' imgination. However after reading this article it brought back those memories school days arguments. One things rings out loud and clear " The More One Tries to Change More he/she Remains the Same" Your thinking process has not changed and still remains immature as those school children. The people of this sub-continent, especially these guys from Nepal Bangladesh and Sri-Lanka have perfected the art of blaming India for all their internal failures. You guys miss the big picture, which is because of India you all are still a soverign states or else you would have gobbled up China long time back. I hope the picture has been made clear to you all

Commented by ManishL - June 26, 2010 @ 2:17 PM

I am really shocked to read all this....more shocked to read that Nepali dont like India now. I always used to think that Nepal + Bhutan are very very friendly towards India. I dont know what went wrong....but its very sad. Our govt. should seriously look into it. I personally like Nepal + Bhutan very much. I hope everything will be fine.

Commented by Jai Nepal - June 16, 2010 @ 3:53 AM

all of the educated people of india u think that nepal and india has a good relation but most of the people of india don't like nepali and bcoz of that too nepali don't like india. ur gov tries to dominate nepal in every way. u encroach our land, make unfair treaties regarding our rivers and water and electricity, and steal resouces from our poor people. have u been to the border between nepal and india? the ssb and local people of india loot, rob, rape, and treat the people of nepal very badly. ur indian armed forces enter nepal and threaten nepalese. u have even claimed that gautam buddha was born in india. every one knows that buddha was born in nepal. do u kno the place called lumbini have u been there? it is in nepal the birth place of buddha. u r misleading the world by making a place like lumbini in india and saying that lumbini is in india. So it is natural for our youths to have anti india feeling. u say that u behave all the people well. but some of my frens who r NRN when they go to india the indians treat them badly. so u cannot treat ur own people good how can u say u have feelings of equality. the author is just telling the truth. the neighbouring countries are revoking against india.this is all the fault of indian government and the -ve attitude towards the neighbours. The development of our country is slowing because of our political leaders who are the puppets of indian govt.so u shud convince ur government not to interfare in the internal matters of nepal.

Commented by Niki - February 19, 2010 @ 4:10 PM

So Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka ass kissing Chinese for few bucks. Interesting, bribed to sell their own countries to China. They will sell their own mothers for Chinese money. Once China has broken Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka into small pices their populations will be slaves of China. The Chinese Hans will be master of their Lands. Then the Pakis, Nepalis, Bangladeshis, and Sri Lankans will be begging India for help. Ask Tibetan people how well Chinese Hans are treating Tibetan people.

Commented by raju - December 28, 2009 @ 12:46 AM

the problem with India is that their leadership treat nepal as their colony and thier ciitiznes treat nepalis as more than brothers. both, indian leadership and their citiziens do not recoginze nepal as a seperate entity. growup indin kids.!@

Commented by rupesh sharma - December 23, 2009 @ 3:01 AM

dear friend, try to understand the diffrence between friend's & enemy. ur all word indiacate u don't want to remember past just want to belive mith aginst india. entire world know about india & about indians . i don't want to use any strong word here because i belive india,nepal people are great freind forever. here i want to tell u one thing my age is 31 & so u can understand not only old but young genration also don't have any -ve think about nepal & there people.

Commented by Shyam - December 22, 2009 @ 8:00 AM

Mr. Aryal you are great. You tell the Truth to everybody. My all indians friends we dont hate you. we love you and people of India. we share very good relationship. We only hate the indian policy towards Nepal. Plz don't Interrupt in our Internal Matter. We are poor we are week coz that do not mean u bully us ( indian govt ). If u have guts bully Pakistan........... China is Very Far face the Reality my friends. Ya we hope India developed and help our country.........in Development and others. But Indian Govt. just used us and we are now at a face of Civil War. So, all the people of Nepal want peace and prosperity not War.

Commented by pradeep - December 20, 2009 @ 4:12 AM

there are many indian beggars in nepal.u can watch in every side of kathmandu.children,adult and old people are there.but we feed them and love them.we we hate only indian youths,not the children and old people.all indians before commiting to other nation's economy,first see ur whole country.how many poors are there in india.

Commented by INDIAN - December 16, 2009 @ 10:47 PM

Is the writer of this article stupid insance no common sense lack of general knowledge how can they let this kind of article publish oh well but its nepal mate no law no public order . if want to talk about achievement and development mate look at the development of your NATION is much more older then India and hence its much much backwards then India . your country is at least 20 years behind India you.... your country cannot even provide with continuous electricity even in your capital city .This article is just .... if you want war with India bring it on .In days we can take over ....country like yours . when India stopped trading with Nepal 10 years ago hunger poverty and your economy just fall like a stick and then your leader begged us to let your nation use our ports again . without you guys are nothing without our support your nation is nothing if you so much hate us .why let your youth come to India and study and work tell your leader to stop trading with india simple and see the consequences you people are good at one thing Chaukidar and Saluting us when ever u see an Indian and call us SAAB ji lol ..

Commented by jal_vayu - December 3, 2009 @ 2:13 AM

have u seen chinese mobiles,radios and the technology that is truly chinese technology not made in china of nokia or other brands.they look nice but of bad quality. they have many disco lights but no use only 3 or 4 months. so i feel chinese missiles aimed at india may reach pakistan or nepal or sri lanka.they feel they can conquer world with kung fu as they did with britishers and were badly hit.Actually kungfu was indian. It was robbed by chinese from indian monks.It is known as kalaripayatu,marma atti.We are the founders of so many arts and technology,yoga,martial arts reiki and so many. It is in our genes.We are guarded by morality .This country has something to teach eveyone Britishers,South Africans.We are very strong at heart and brave people. If we can win freedom without use of weapons how much more with weapons.See it is all technology or techniques.This land teaches u how to live. Hence so many saints and scholars. We found atom long before.We found number 0. U may be 1,2,3 or many but without 0 ur nothing.

Commented by sandeep - December 1, 2009 @ 7:40 AM

Niraj Aryal, If India stops behaving like elder brother with Nepal all people of Nepal will be in trouble? reason Pakistan and china will not let you live in peace and you all Bahadurs will lick their feet. China envy India because of Indian progress. China does not allow freedom china uses tanks to crush people, that is china. And even china needs help of Pakistan to fight a proxy war. This is not 1962 that time was different and china took advantage of our friendship and betrayed us. China attacked us with a ten times bigger army and we did not have enough weapons that was the main reason of India’s defeat. Dalai Lama is in India from last 50 years this is a thorn in china flesh because china has illegally occupied Tibet and he is voicing for it. And Pakistan is dying slowly because of its own poison. China can not tackle even Taiwan how it can tackle India which is much more powerful. So stops criticizing India. Nepal cannot survive without help of India.

Commented by Vargisjo - November 11, 2009 @ 9:10 PM

REPLACE THE EARLIER COMMENT WITH THIS REVISED COMMENT Having read your India-bashing article carefully, I can only sympathize with you for your mountainous ignorance about the socio-political scenario in Asia. Any impartial observer of the current socio-political development in South East Asia knows for sure what role India has played in maintaining peace in the region. Even in extreme provocations such as the most inhuman terrorist attack launched out in Mumbai last year by Pakistani terrorists, India has shown tremendous sense of restraints and patience. Imagine what would have been the response of the US, had a Mumbai-like situation been thrust on that country. Remember America’s response to September 11 and the subsequent developments in Afghanistan. The fact that India did not respond to Pakistan in similar vein should not be interpreted as India’s weakness. It shows the strength of our democracy and our sense of respect for the sovereignty of other nations, particularly for our neighbors, and our desire for peace in the region. India is not a warmonger, nor does it have any expansionist and aggressive plans. The international policies followed by India over the years as illustrated in India’s leadership in Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) and its declared policy of no-first-use of nuclear weapons only substantiate this claim. Having said that one must know that India would not be intimidated or cowed down, and it is fully capable and prepared to protect its territories and interest from any foreign aggression. The author is caught up in the utopia that in the event of China-India conflict, India’s neighbors would prefer to side with China and ultimately India would loose the war. It is only the diabolic wish of people like the author. In the first place, a war between India and China is a very distant possibility, and it is not in the interest of either countries. China and India are responsible countries who are capable of settling their problems through diplomatic channels rather than resorting to war as Mr. Niraj Aryal seems to think. The author’s judgment about the socio-political and economic situations about India is wrong and it seems to have been born out of his ignorance of what India of the twenty-first century is. I do not claim that everything in India is all right and that there are no problems. Like any other nation in the world, India has its share of problems on the political, social and economic front, and our political leadership is capable of dealing with those problems. India has always wanted cordial relations with all its neighbors. No one can accuse us of fomenting terrorism and violence in the neighboring countries. When the author makes allegations about India sponsoring terrorist activities in neighboring states, the onus is on him to provide credible evidence of such allegations. In fact, it is India which has been the victim of cross-border terrorism. Finally, India does not require advice from the sort of people like Mr. Niraj Aryal who do not see anything good in India, and who only wishes India’s destruction. One could only wish Mr. Aryal had made a careful and dispassionate evaluation of India in terms of its relation with its neighbors, and the present state of India.

Commented by Vargisjo - November 11, 2009 @ 3:10 PM

After reading your India-bashing article, I can only sympathize with you for your mountainous ignorance about the socio-political scenario in Asia. Any impartial observer of the current socio-political development in South East Asia knows for sure what role India has played in maintaining peace in the region. Even in extreme provocations such as the most inhuman terrorist attack launched out in Mumbai last year by Pakistani terrorists, India has shown tremendous sense of restraints and patience. Imagine what would have been the response of the US, had a Mumbai-like situation had been thrust on that country. Remember America’s response to September 11 and the subsequent developments in Afghanistan. The fact that India did not respond to Pakistan in a similar vein should not be interpreted as India’s weakness. It shows the strength of our democracy and our sense of respect for the sovereignty of other nations, particularly for our neighbors, and our desire for peace in the region. India is not a warmonger, nor does it have any expansionist and aggressive plans. The international policies followed by India over the years as illustrated in India’s leadership in Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) and its declared policy of no-first-use of nuclear weapons only substantiate this claim. Having said that one must know that India would not be intimated or cowed down, and it is fully capable and prepared to protect its territories and interest from any aggression. The author is caught up in the utopia that in the event of China-India conflict, India’s neighbors would prefer to side with China and ultimately India would loose the war. It is only the diabolic wish of people like the author. In the first place, a war between India and China is very distant possibility, and it is not in the interest of either countries. China and India are responsible countries who are capable of settling their problems through diplomatic channels rather than resorting to war as Mr. Niraj Aryal seems to think. The author’s judgment about the socio-political and economic situations about India is wrong and it seems to have been born out of his ignorance of what India of the twenty-first century is. I do not claim that everything in India is right and that there are no problems. Like any other nation in the world, India has its share of problems on the political, social and economic front, and our political leadership is capable of dealing with those problems. India has always wanted cordial relation with all its neighbors. No one can accuse us of fomenting terrorism and violence in the neighboring countries. When the author makes allegations about India sponsoring terrorist activities in neighboring states, the onus is on him to provide credible evidence of such allegations. In fact, it is India which has been the victim of cross-border terrorism. Finally, India does not require advice from the sort of people like Mr. Niraj Aryal who do not see anything good in India, who only wishes India’s destruction. One could only wish Mr. Aryal had made a careful and dispassionate evaluation of India in terms of its relation with its neighbors, and the present state of India.

Commented by Ramesh Kumar - November 6, 2009 @ 12:36 AM

Hi, Well Going through the article I just felt like I should write something on this. It seems like in this age of understanding people still are labeling themselves as Indians, Nepalis Chinese etc, however the truth is that we are humanity. We cannot be against war but we have to be for peace. Its like the heart cell telling the liver cell I won't help you. Doesn't make sense. Its like cancer cell destroying other cells thinking that it is its job and ultimately ending everything in the body. We are humans and we have to respect each other no one is superior no one is inferior we are one humanity. We need education and more spritual understanding of our nature which is not this body not this name which is the self and so we are all that self. All hatred is from the mind the ego. we should rather stay together and promote education and true knowledge. Thanks love all of you.

Commented by patriotic Indian - October 27, 2009 @ 12:35 PM

Niraj Aryal is awesome. India cannot afford a war with Bangladesh, Srilanka and Bhutan. Actually even comparing or thinking of India to be able to afford to fight with Pakistan, China and of course Nepal is beyond human thinking. Indians by blood, by race etc are born to be human dogs who can only die in utter poverty and lick the foot of the master -- in this case Nepal of Niraj Aryal. But one thing is certain if all these 1.2 billion dog indians die not of war but of starvation then Niraj Aryal will be the happiest person on this earth. I wish all the best for Niraj Aryal's Happiness. But i think before these 1.2 billion dogs die, atleast if they can wipe off NEPAL from the face of the Earth with their DOG NUCLEAR WEAPONS, they will rest in peace

Commented by TRUE INDIAN - October 16, 2009 @ 2:38 AM

i really hate srilankan for bruitly killed those LTTE, hate those nepalese whose lick our leg and offenly come to indian in seek for some job. I hate pakisatani as well. I believe there will be any war between china and india as both are developing country moving in rightway a head to become world strongest country. India is a graet country and indian are very humble and gud nature. INDIA NEVER WANTS WAR BUT IF THERE WILL BE WAR LKE SITUATION WILL BE SUPPORTING OUR DEFENCE BHAI. JAI HIND...JAI BHARAT.

Commented by GURPREET SINGH - October 15, 2009 @ 11:44 PM

nepalese talking from china side(rubbish)ha ha ha(so funny).before you talking from the china side,you must go to china and see the povery and misrable condition of the people.the condition is much verse.ok if want to go with china,go,but they will treat you like dogs.they will call you monkeys from nepal.and you talking indian going to america,what is wrong in this even we live any place but we proud to be indian.and you people kissing the feets of china,you people running to hongkong(illegaly).still have time,see who is your friend and who is your enemy.we feel our culture is same,we are brothers,but chinese people hate our culture.try to understand.i live in hongkong,here we and nepalese have good relations,because here nepalese understand these chinese people.so you must understand the reality.please join hands togather,not for fight but for world peace.

Commented by Indian_Guy - October 13, 2009 @ 10:48 AM

I think as per the sentiments of the writer of this article and also the prevailing thought process, India is the only country which although being a nuclear power the nuclear weapons just vanish into thin air. If war breaks out between India and China, india's nuclear weapons will become roses the moment they enter the Chinese airspace and Chinese will be laughing at them. So Indian nuclear weapons do not have the GUTS to be nuclear weapons against China. They are just bull shit. So if a was happens i think we will all be burned into ashes and Nepalis can come and stay here and enjoy this great and vast country. But one thing is true. Indian nuclear weapons will not become roses and will have the GUTS to be nuclear weapons against NEPAL. I guess after so much of ridiclule and humiliation by such small countries like Nepal, Bangladesh, Srilanka etc, the GOI and people ofIndia should first and foremost think of eliminating these snakes rather before fighting with Pakistan and china. The great NEPAL, SRILANKA, BANGLADESH etc have not right to exist on the MAP. For too long we have been sufferring humiliation from these small lizards

Commented by Aadesh - October 7, 2009 @ 4:16 AM

Hi Mr. Niraj Aryal, I went thru your article and the conclusion was only hated against India. You dont know politivs at all and have forgot the basics of history and geo-political scenario. Before writing any of the articles of this type, you should keep secularism in mind. Anyhow your article is totally baseless. I think you have not only grown by the slums but your guts stinking with slums. People like you are actually provoking youths for hatred and mind that you can do nothing. When Nepal will be attacked by any foreign force you will hide your... run away. You are totally non-sense. Plz clean up your mind and have some thing to learn about. you don't know anything about Nepal. Your knowledge reagrding China is only that you see the headlines about economic developments and the natioanl day parade in the tv. rather people like you are useless piece of litter.

Commented by Rajan - October 5, 2009 @ 1:46 AM

I am a Nepali guy and I would say I love Nepal I love India I love china But all I would say is I HATE Indian Gov. All the above comments by nepali friends wants to proof we hate Indian Gov.. not Indian or India

Commented by Tarun kumar jha - October 4, 2009 @ 7:59 AM

I will request the writer to come down India once and meet with Indian people so that he could know how we are ?? Inspite of speaking against India on fatuous matters talk how india has helped their neighbours at several point of time

Commented by Anon - September 29, 2009 @ 11:08 PM

India- thinks theyre smart but indians oversmart! ppl all over the world dont like you do u know that?

Commented by mahendiran - September 24, 2009 @ 2:13 PM

india should not recruit napales i army they may not layal to india

Commented by South Indian - September 20, 2009 @ 6:07 PM

Wow! what's all the India bashing for? Why are you rooting for China? who have taken over all minority regions and overpopulated them with Han population. Inner Mongolia and Manchuria are atleast 90 percent Han, Tibet and Xinxiang is also Han Majority, despite what official Chinese records say about those regions. Overtime, they will also turn into another Inner Mongolia and Manchuria .. just matter of time. Recent violence in Xinxiang will probably speed up the process. I guess you are aware China considers Nepal as one the five fingers in the Himalaya regions and Tibet being the palm! Maybe you want to be taken over by China and be Sinified! There are always differences between neighbours in the world. Even USA and Canada. Canadians have issues with the Americans, despite having great relationship, its natural. India and Nepal have great diplomatic and spiritual relationship for centuries. Nepal at one time been part of the unofficial, traditional India, whether they like to admit it or not. China is using Nepal in trying to slow down India's progress. India and probably Japan are the only nations in Asia that can counter China. It only natural for China to get rid of the competition. In general, India has good relations with its neighbours, with exception of Pakistan and possibly Bangladesh, for obvious reasons.. Their Islamic mindset cannot stand a more powerful, successful nation that growing more powerful and influential in the region and the world. India is a democratic (although flawed) and a secular nation, which guarantees the freedom to all its citizen. It is one of the most diverse nation both by population and geography. Pakistan is a Islamic nation who bigoted policy have no respect for the non-Islamic and it is a breeding ground for terrorists. Bangladesh is also messed up, but way better than Pakistan, but still has issues..Recent political changes there may push towards a more positive relations with India. Since the early 1990's, after liberalizing its economy, India is growing more more powerful and influential. It has the right to protects its interests but I believe it should respect other nations as well (easier said than done though). India is not the same India back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, or even the 90's. It is now more agressive, it has progressed tremendously in many fields, but still has many problems to address as well. It still behind China in many fields but is catching up very fast. To think China can just attack India and get a way with it is a JOKE. India is very powerful nation, any attacks on it will be matched be retaliation. I believe there will be border skimerishes from time to time, but nothing that would escalate to all out war, it would madness ... Both economies will suffer! Recent incident in the border regions with China has put India on the defense. Probably an excuse to get more money for defense IMO. Whatever, they need to put in more money in all areas of the military. India needs to beef up it defense to match its economic growth if it wants to be taken seriously ... and to counter China. China is not stupid, it will probably try to screw India through the backdoor, like using countries like Nepal to screw India. It has already been using Pakistan for decades. Does Nepal want to be another ... for the Chinese. China will talk big, and that's it. and It has the right to protects its interests as well. Both these countries are placing more focus on the economy, China started early, India is trying to catch up...Nepal needs to do the same and stop acting like Pakistan and Bangladesh blaming India all the time instead of themselves. Nepal is a great nation and should be proud, it has so much to offer...

Commented by chheten - September 17, 2009 @ 11:49 PM

india has no good relation with any other neighbours.we must teach lesson to india.i hate neharu theory if you hear that theory then you will start to kill indians.india is dominating all the neighbours.so we must be fight with india. india is doing" mukh ma ram ram bagalima chhura".

Commented by Johanus Keppler - September 7, 2009 @ 1:16 AM

Amazing Nepali guys, you have a serious (but unjustified) inferiority complex. That is all I can say. Just because your cousin (India), is bigger and more developed, you are trying to create fissures. Go ahead, have fun. Stop all water that comes to India.(God know where it will go - probably flood Nepal, if you are able to achieve that feat scientifically). I am not sure how cost effective it would be to send water up to your friends (China) for now. But send it anyway. I would love to see the person who will finance this gigantic effort, oh yeah and the technologists, who will do that. But then you will get Chinese help I guess. Maybe we should close the borders with you guys, as requested by your Nepali brethren. It would be fun to export/Import stuff via Hong Kong. As far as land goes, why stop at Himachal (Simla used to be the winter capital of India, a part of erstwhile Punjab state), so by that logic, Panjab is also a part of Nepal, which means that your dear friend Pakistan was also a part of Nepal. I guess why stop that .. Nepal should rule India - the last time I heard Delhi used to be part of Nepal too (oh yeah and how about Bombay - it was given as dowry by some Nepali princess to an Englishman right ?) Right .... go ahead have fun ... either we are tied at the hip ....like it or not.

Commented by Henry - September 1, 2009 @ 8:45 PM

shashikant ,l can see you are totally a ... person ,you have ...view of chinese people and culture ,only one word to describe you "you are nothing else but ..."

Commented by shashikant - August 29, 2009 @ 8:28 PM

WOW..who cares if china does attack. with their begger friend pakistan..lets nuke the ---...i live in australia & china is in deep shit with most of the western countries...well the fact is i was speaking to a chinese taxi driver the other day who told me the the chinese communist party is absolute rubbish..most of their iiliterate ---into prostitution in the western world these ---need to manage their own house first..dont worry about india we can & have been dealing with our internal problems since ages...anyways LET ME AS THIS TO THIS --WHO WROTE THE ARTICLE..DO U KNOW HOW WOULD THE CHINESE TREAT U IF U WERE FRIENDS WITH THEM...JUST LIKE CHEAP SHIT..'...& with the chinese what can u expect ..the world knows it..CHEAP PEOPLE..CHEAP PRODUCTS.......CHEAP MENTALITY..JAI HIND

Commented by rajendra rana - August 28, 2009 @ 1:16 AM

<>fellow have ur brain in knees ,first see what is the geopolitical n cultural background .if u people r happy with china just go head with it we never said no to go with china but before going to china think off the situation in all aspects .poor fellow dont even know if u have to get fuel from china u need to cross 800 km approx to get it,if u still insist to get from china then prep ur self to spend 300/-rs per meal can u afford that may be this <>fellow who posted this artical against india can afford but there r so many nepalis here who cannot afford to do so ......think about that .before doing something think man,evaluate the facts n then comment .i know nepal well n love nepal but i dont like stupid nepalis who have brains in ur kness ur political leaders r not fools they understand the situation well with culture n geopolitical situations .i dont understand suddenly one day china comes to u people n says we r ready to spend billions of rupees then u people turn to china if money was that important to nepal then late king birendra whome i respect n i know well every true nepali respects would have opted for china than india so before saying something or posting something on blog just know what ur posting.lastly china will never go to war with india nor the indians like to go to war classic example that indians dont like war i will give u .the mumbai attack even US president obama said if india wants to go for war with pakistan then they wont oppose it,but india like nepal is a peace loving country man so no war that made the present ruling congress to get back to second term power so the indian people r also against war .

Commented by Joglu - August 27, 2009 @ 3:52 AM

Thanking for exposing the real face of problem maker india. No confusion about this, most of the neighbor countries people hates India. Thanking on behalf from Bangladesh.

Commented by Mora-Murga - August 24, 2009 @ 2:43 AM

At last the surrounding countries of so called mighty India have realized that India is no more a useful state to them. The hatred towards the so called big brother India will grow on near future more faster. As I am Bangladeshi we saw, how the Indians kill innocent several Bangladeshies at the Border (internationally known this BD-Indian border as "Wall of Death"). Every neighbor countries have severe and irritating pain from India. Appreciating the article and its author.

Commented by Amit Kumar - August 17, 2009 @ 8:51 AM

I have read all above comments. I want to warn all of you guys don't do like this becoz this way we are just trying to down each other and most important no one can attack on india in this era if anyone one can think then defently we(Indian)are ready to die but you know "Hum to dubenge sanam lekin tumhe bhi le dubenge"

Commented by Yogesh - August 15, 2009 @ 3:13 AM

This article shows the mindset of writer. Definitely this guy maoist. I am sure mor ethan 90% of the Nepalese suypports India and their economy runs only due to India. China hate India because they knows we Indian are the bigger threat for them in all the fields. But they don't dare to attack.

Commented by R - August 15, 2009 @ 2:52 AM

Unfortunate for Nepal...even if we loose the war with China and some territory - we will come back stronger and this time will take care of you guys permanently. Only if you were not envious you may have got more.

Commented by Apurv - August 13, 2009 @ 2:14 AM

One thing is for sure....seeing the attitude of india's neighbours, india should stop helping and supporting these wretched beggers who dont know how to show gratitude..instead of supporting india who is funding nepal, these beasts nepalese r saying that india is poking its news...now has anyone ever heard such an absurd thing!!!!

Commented by richard simpson - August 11, 2009 @ 10:21 AM

wow - why does telegraph nepal allow such articles to be published. this is merely personal (and in my view unbalanced) opinion of a person without a deep understanding of the geostrategic dynamics of south asia.

Commented by RAKESH - August 8, 2009 @ 4:35 AM

lol the person who wrote this article is sad becoz of india progress for sure how can he authenticate india is supporting taliban.there is a dialogue in the movie company like "isko ithna akhad kyu hai? and the hero replies oh janta hai oh mujse kam hai " india and i guess this kind of attitude remains with people too and he dont have to advise india what to do mind your own businees atleast we have a option if we win or lose but you guys are sure gonna lose with any country you share the border ,so stop acting like a tiger becoz everbody know where the cat is...

Commented by Rajput - August 7, 2009 @ 7:09 PM

China do not have --- to attack India Nor India has! Bharat verma ,Who published this Article is a Retired Army general ,he has done a right thing in favour of to Indian Army,Navy and Air Force ,Coz Government is taking Security very lightly!
This is true that India is seeking a War with China soon ! That has been discussed in All over world in Military establishments and China Do Know that , But china Wants that after 2015 but India wants it Before 2012.Thats strategy, Why India Wants war is a complex thing but is unfolding step wise step! China is now scared of Indian panetration and capability of IAF,Navy and Army!
Some days back Su-30MKI cruising and Supersonic speeds panetrated into 300KM deep inside China for recon,and that set All Chinese Radar at High Alerts .Before any Chinese Interception SU-30MKI Guys were back in India.
Finally It it strength not size that matters in International Strategy!
Better not worry about India,Nepal,Pakistan,Srilanka First need to fis their house that is now much messy !
Indians has other thing to do than a War !

Commented by Vipul - July 26, 2009 @ 2:09 AM

Article is expressive on political ground only. Due to non strong head of India leader ship, this situation arose. Nepal will be the most fool if they choose China when war breaks. Culture and heritage of both the countries are same. ethos and moral value carries in similar way. china has a habit to eat geographical area of opponent. there is no democratic value in China. no religious tolerance available in China. India has corridor open for Nepal in all respect. In India more or less all Indian believe Nepalese in India are as Indian as others. Nepal has open gateway to India. but diplomacy can change this proposition. Nepal can not afford loosing friendship with India. Nepal has lot of things to Loose, India has less to loose. I am pro Nepal so I am expressing my view. I believe in strong Indo Nepal friendship and strategic alliance with Nepal. Nepal is now toooo small to evaluate the relationship and deplomacy of India in reference to Bangladesh, Shrilanka. a(As if papua guana and Barbados talk about USA and Russia)

Commented by Sandip Pradhan - July 26, 2009 @ 12:48 AM

Wow Chinese have really acheived what they really wanted: Create hatred towards India. See what has China done to Tibet, Macau. They are communist, they are forceful: raise your voice and you lose your head. They are forcefully marrying Tibetan women. If the people of Nepal feels secure under China then may God bless.The only place where Jews have remained peaceful is in India (This is what the Head of Jews have told). No other country have allowed them to live peacefully. Next, Dalai Lama was suppose to give a speech in S.Africa but because of the pressure from Chinese Govt. his trip was cancelled by S.African Govt. Oh fellow Nepalese do you know India has given him and his people shelter despite of huge pressure from China. Ask Dalai Lama what India is and he will tell you what it is. I agree there are some elements in India that seem to play dirty politics but in its entirety it is a country far far better than China. Chinese elements have brainwashed our people!! You know where Pakistan's economy comes from : money donated by US. Fellow Nepalese lets buck up, when US itself have realised the growing power of Indian Economy we should not act stupid and foolish to side with China. I truly agreed with what Kamal has written.

Commented by Alok ... Nepal - July 24, 2009 @ 11:09 PM

I'm from Nepal and would like to take China's side if the war breaks out. India has history of poking nose into internal matters of other countries.. be it Nepal, China, Pakistan, or Bangladesh. They have problems with China, they are intruding in Pakistan through Baluchistan and by supporting Talibans from Afghanistan into Pk, have problem in SriLanka by LTTE and just bcoz of that..I know many SL's hating india and indians from the core of ther heart. If USSR can break into many parts, why not INDIA? I was watching the video yesterday which showed india divided into 9 difr states from eastern side..and I can't wait to see that day. Indians have history ..they don't even belong to their parents, how can they support Nepal and nepalese. They move to USA, make their children born there just becuase they don't want ther childrens to be called indians. they better be americans thn indians. they leave ther country and parents and live ther. Greedy/miser ppl. China is way stronger thn India..and if war breaks out, India will face China's wrath once more and will shit n pee in ther pants! lolz.

Commented by naveen david - July 23, 2009 @ 4:31 PM

this is wierd .. this article bears little truth and loads of bull shit.... firstoffall people who criticises india shld actually drop their jaws lookin at d way india has been carryin itself thru this century...india is a nation of diversity with a huge number of religion,language,demography ,even higher than those of its neighbours combined...still it has been executin its divine democracy victoriously contrary to the authoritarianism in china, military junta in pakistan,maoist dogmatism in nepal..... none of indias neighbours has the right to commemt on indias foreign policy....aggresiveness can never be coupled with indian history n the whole world knows dis... only reason why china was able to score against india in 1962 was bcos we were naively pacifistic, but nomore we are naive ...now we have stronger fists with warming shoulders to punch hard or to hug tight... we r not piece of cake to be tasted by china easily while its try to do so will be a guaranteed internecine ... we have the enough might to negate any adventure of these nations on india....its prowess is experincin a substantial growth in the region n accepted by nations world wide as an inevitable regional power n a future global power(ofcourse along with china) via which its neighbuors can gain a lot economically(if they have d desire to form a nexus of amity).. but atlast i have accept bharat vermas comments r stupid and it doent reflect the indias formal stand...

Commented by nilkantha subedi - July 22, 2009 @ 7:05 AM

i will side with china if the war happens as predicted by lunatic indian analysts mr. varma.

Commented by damodar nepali - July 22, 2009 @ 5:07 AM

india is in a panic for fear of being attacked by china. india fears the repetition of the 1962 debacle. behave with neighbors as the writer mr aryal has suggested or face the dragon.

Commented by love_peace - July 21, 2009 @ 6:02 PM

Why does China need to fight with India? Beijing just dams all the rivers flowing down from the Himalayas and New Delhi will cry Mamma Mia!

Commented by naren - July 21, 2009 @ 3:25 PM

I just wonder whether Niraj Aryal is a good writer. Since Indra Ghandi's death India never helped LTTE(Tamil Tigers). But the writers says that "India should stop supporting LTTE". Instead Sri Lankan government used India which only relies for its foreign policy on few guys(would say not intellectuals) rather than a well-designed system like the chinese or the west have, for war against Tigers.Now Sri lanka, comparatively 60 times smaller than India, is bullying."If you(India) don't help us to kill innocent tamils we go to China". Thats what Sri Lanka says to poor India. These guys have not got the abilities to lead the INDIA. One of my Sri Lankan(Singalese) friends commented that" While china competing the US, india is only bullying Pakistan and Bangaladesh". He was right. AS Tamils,i have always supported India in every aspects including war against Pakistan and Cricket. But, Since India helped Sri Lanka to kill 22000 innocent Tamils in 24 hours on 16 of may 2009, i wish to watch china destroying whole India. Singalese Sri Lanka will help china, we Tamil just watch with cruel mind. India had only one friend in its neighbourhood,Tamils. But not anymore.

Commented by SM - July 20, 2009 @ 8:56 AM

Reading the comments by Nepalis above tells me how to treat the next Nepali I see in my country

Commented by Rajendra Kumar - July 19, 2009 @ 11:37 AM

Mr Ranjan, You are dreaming like a Jackal waiting for the ...l to fall on ground and then have the .... If Nepalese have any brain, they should play smartly and develop their nation. You guys are just wasting time.

Commented by ranjan - July 19, 2009 @ 7:34 AM

i will be very glad if there is war between india n china . i will be happy to kill some indian.... in the favour of china . india never behave like neighbour n when china wipe indian ...then we can take our land back which we have lost during sugauli on sided trety.

Commented by dheeraj - July 18, 2009 @ 3:30 AM

Wherenever there exists a close political/geographical connection, some short of disagreement/strain always creeps in. Its also true for ties between India, Nepal and China. But stakes are too high to intiate any full-blown armed conflict. Just a food for thought: "Meghalaya government on Friday claimed to have prevented an alleged encroachment bid by Assam in its territory even as tension brewed in the disputed Langpih area", two Indian states in border dispute, still we are nowhere close to disintegration.

Commented by shekhar parajuli - July 16, 2009 @ 7:16 AM

let's pray that there is no war in between the two giant neighbors as calculated by this defunct indian analysts. but if that does happen, naturally nepal will side with china. but let's avert this threat created by this lunatic indian expert.

Commented by shashi kiran - July 15, 2009 @ 4:01 PM

I love Nepal and Nepali people. Most of the Indian tourist visit Nepal and contribute to Nepal's economy and also they get benifted by Seeing the amazing kingdom. There is no reason to hate India. India never attacks anybody and history tells that attacks were from external on India and India never initiated any WAR.

Commented by sushil - July 15, 2009 @ 2:51 PM

are yaar karteek: When u mentioned Tibet you have forgotten what india did to sikkim..yes it was annexed by india in 70s...india is also an expansionist...it is just a silent empire and when prosperity hits it so will it's territorial greed......India officially doesn't recognise tibet as an independent territory don't forget that....

Commented by noname - July 15, 2009 @ 1:11 AM

India has no good relations with any of it's neighbours. Even the Bhutiyas hate the Indians.

Commented by Gus - July 14, 2009 @ 10:26 PM

Commenting from a nuetral perspective- by US Citizen Nepal depends on India for everything and there has been no legal issue ( other than media created) where india has acted as big brother or hurt Nepal's interest. Infact even gurellas who removed monarchy used indian lands ( becoz India doesn't have effective policing inside it's land). Pakistan (is no israel) and is no match for India militarily or economically , just surviving based on encouragement from China ..just admit it. India will have tough time matching China ...but again China can not afford war with India because trade with India is heavily favouring Chinese exports...India looses badly in trade with China. India has been respecting Kashmiri citizen by not allowing anybody to settle in Kashmir...where China fills Han Chinese in Tibet ( captured in 1953) and Xinxiang (captured in 1940s). Most of Nepalis (~40%) earn livlihood in India, so are many bangladeshis in slums of India. Sri Lanka is asking India lot of favours on trade. So logic defy most of you guys comments. VA , USA

Commented by sangos - July 14, 2009 @ 3:27 PM

Wow! I never knew Nepalis(almost all in the forum here)hated India more than Pakistanis...eye opener

Commented by heroes - July 14, 2009 @ 12:09 PM

Niraj Aryal not just india but even china can not afford a war with india. both the nations r nuclear nations... there for there is no one-way damage. both the counters will suffer if a war breaks between then two

Commented by shambhu nepali - July 14, 2009 @ 10:53 AM

great debate. my indian friends must read the history that even tiny mountaineous kingdom had conquered them. we the nepalese had conquered up to SUTLEZ in the West and TEESTA in the east. thus from where you are making comments, may be it is still our terrotory as per the 1950 nepal-India treaty. We lost Sutlez and Teesta through a treaty of Sugauli, 1816, but the existing nepal-india 1950 treaty allows nepal to claim its lost lands. so you must be speaking and spitting venom against us from nepal's legitimate territory. Turn the pages of history. i would suggest to read The Discovery of India by Chacha nehru, if you have in your possession. Even Dinajpur in today's B'desh is our land legally. got the point. yet let's reconcile. be good friends. we are ready to reciprocate if you bros behave. regards to you all dear friend. I would recommen to you all to carefully read what Sujit mainali has said in his comments. cool down.

Commented by kumar.koirala - July 14, 2009 @ 10:30 AM

Wah wah Indians suffer!! I love to see them mentally tortured. If they are trouble by a not so well written article by an unknown journalist what happen if a senor jounlist from Nepal hit them hard

Commented by SONAM - July 14, 2009 @ 10:29 AM

a piece of junk news reporting

Commented by ashok - July 14, 2009 @ 10:03 AM

After war between india and china, nepal will become super power, india out of the world map, wow. Do you guys really think this will happen. I really amazed by the story, people can write any ---, specially talented gernalist like Mr. Niraj Aryal . What a shame. Any people who can read and write ---in english can become journalist. wake up people and think some constuctive for our own nation, nepal. From my experience, people of india are generally cool and helpful. Any nation always looks its own interest first. China and India is not exception. Its the responsibility of the people of the country and its leader(generally waste people) to guide the nation in which direction it wants to move in. PAK and India were both friend of US and see how the India has taken advantage of US though trades and how PAK ---itself by negative thoughts. People who never travels generally tend to make their own --- world by reading articles like these. By the way, china has more restrictive laws for nepalese citizen to go to china. Its easier to go to china for an indian citizen and china is doing far more trades with india than nepal.

Commented by John - July 14, 2009 @ 9:50 AM

Great Thers is no mention about something called "Xinjiang" which is making rounds in world media here in this portal, With its association with China, Nepal can aspire to become N.Korea with a "Loyal Kim " leading her.Those fanatasising the attack should mind that China never tried to annex Taiwan which it sees as a "renegade province". The fate of the N Korea(which has got so much aid from china!!) will be an eye opener for the India haters . Try going through some international independent media also while going through this paper.

Commented by Mahesh Pun - July 14, 2009 @ 9:37 AM

To some extent Karteek's comment is viable, but it is just the bird's eye view of the asian geo-politics. He has less idea regarding the internal wrong strategies rather policies New Delhi has been taking with respect to Nepal. The result was anti-indian sentiment from nepalese people. Its no secret now that RAW agents are handeling politics in Nepal now. There has been disagreement within indian politicians on these stratigies as well. If only New Delhi starts to retreat/withdraw their RAW agents, i believe Nepal-India relation could recover in less time. Respect, Love and Peace all over the world.....Mahesh Pun

Commented by sujit mainali - July 14, 2009 @ 9:25 AM

In response to the comment posted by disguised India, 1. Many Indian industrialist and workers are earning their living in Nepal. Nepal is among top 7 countries which contributes larger remittance to India, 2. We request the India to chuck Gorkhas back to Nepal. We also favor it. Let us see how India can suppress it's internal dissatisfaction -- like that of Khalistan, Kashmirs, etc in absence of Gorkhas. 3. Close boarder between Nepal and India is what we are looking for. India is nurturing so called Nepalese Madeshes to destabilize Nepal. If boarder closed, India will loose employments and larger remittance 4. We do not need any aid from India. India takes back in larger amount then it pours in Nepal. IN ADDITION, WHAT NEPAL MUST DO TO INDIA. LET'S COUNT 1. Do not allow India to use Nepal's water resource. Then see how India can achieve its goal to facilitate its citizen with adequate water and electricity by 2020. 2. Withdraw Gorkha from India military force and see the movie of deterioration, how Khalistan, Kashmir and entire northeast India goes out from India's control. 3. Play Northeast India card and create havoc in Siliguri Corridor, a chicken neck which is also a meeting point of Nepal, Bangladesh and China. 4. Go to the international court and compel India withdraw its colonial rule from Nepalese territory extended to Tista and Sutlez, which include the territory of Gorkhaland, Himanchal Pradesh and some portion of Bihar and UP. 5. Nurture Maoist in India for distabliz if India continue creating political havoc in Nepal, 6. Flood cheap Chinese goods to India then see how India's market get collapse ……………………….. There are many cards under Nepal's sleeves to counter India's nude intervention. For this, we need a loyal ledership

Commented by kutchbhiasd - July 14, 2009 @ 9:24 AM

>>support local Taliban outfits in the Swat valley, Are you completely retarded ?? where the ... do you read such propaganda ? INdia supports taliban outfits ? hahahaha

Commented by amber - July 14, 2009 @ 8:54 AM

To all the comments, Nobody can predict what might happen in future, War may break out between China or India, China or Pakistan, India or Pakistan, or some other countries or may be not. It entirely depends upon the action of the sovereign countries and how the big and developing countries impose their interest in the region. Within the region and in global context the backing up, as somebody mentioned in their comment can be really harmful for the whole region. This backing up may be from other part of the world but totally in the interest of other directions. Its better to developo the whole South Asian region and remain strong against possible negative impacts. I will expect that no powerful countries will like to use nuke and stay in war which will shatter their economies and bring the situation of chaos like in present Iraq. In the other hand we have also seen India and China interfering its neighbouring countries projecting the future risk. This is not preventing their fear but giving arises to many causes that brings negative impact for them.For exmple this has been seen when India gave the breeding grounds for LTTE and Nepal maoist.This is regional issue and same fate happened to grip the so called the most powerful nation U.S.A when they nourished Bin Laden and his team to fight against U.S.S.R. The later is knowledgable to all. To be honest India does not posses the real friendship relation with its neighbour as it use to be from 60's- 90's. to some extent I aslo see that it should not allow its land to prepare any form of group that destabilises the security and harmony of other countries. This will be in no interest in long run for it itself.The task carried out by fair mind set and positive attitude always brings positive results in any run of life. Be it a human life or ac country's life. I hope both big nation learns to move in harmony and makes the region a lot better place to be proud of. May god give some brains to all the defence experts in the world before making their remarks. Thank You.

Commented by kiran.rana.magar - July 14, 2009 @ 8:25 AM

I once had a debate with my brother on "What if Nepal splits in two parts; invaded half by India and the other half by China, which part would you take?" For this question, my brother quickly replied that no doubt he would take the Indian citizenship. I was astonished to hear such words from him as he hated the Indian interference in Nepal, but I insisted on taking the Chinese side as they have not yet openly invaded or interfered Nepal (once it had bitterly betrayed our last king during his last days, standing against his act to dethrone him). Then he explained his secrets behind taking the Indian part. As said by him "I want to enter the Indian Side and destroy it from inside in such a way that there will be no trace of India in the world map". This is how much we hate the Indian direct interference in our county.

Commented by Rajendra Kumar - July 14, 2009 @ 8:15 AM

I have never read such idiotic article in my life. First of all there will never be a war between India and China as neither can afford it. However, if at all there is a war, both countries and the entire neighbourhood will be reduced to pre-historic levels and there won't be any winners. Author of this article should mature up and understand international affairs better. Commenting any further on this article will be a total waste of time.

Commented by yu zang - July 14, 2009 @ 8:09 AM

In his speech at the Lok Sabba in 1954, Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru said, "Over the past several hundred years, as far as I know, at no time has any foreign country denied China's sovereignty over Tibet." How can China be accused of invading Tibet when the entire world considered Tibet a part of China? The Dalai Lama works for the CIA and the whole world know it. China sincerely want to help Nepal without interfering in Nepal's internal politics, but that seems to touch a sensitive nerve in India.

Commented by ramesh manandhar - July 14, 2009 @ 7:43 AM

i fully agree with what Prakash has said. i will advise indian friends to read what prakash has to say in his comments. regards

Commented by S.Bedi - July 14, 2009 @ 7:39 AM

This is the reply to indian who talks about Nuke neighbours- 1.It is the mind set of indians thats why we hate indians. 2.As far as returning Gurkhas- we want the 1950s treaties to be abolished. That includes everything there that you proposed. It is our agenda not indian government's agenda. Thank you for raising these issues. 3.As far as you talk about Nuking- even your god father can not do that.Believe me. Even USA can not do that for you. And take in mind that there is China with nuke and Pakistant with nuke and Korea with nuke .... If that happens in south asia (as you said)-probably india will be wiped out from the map. So please do not boast- We know what india can do and what it can not do.

Commented by nepali asali choro - July 14, 2009 @ 7:29 AM

if one small article can create panic in the entire indian teritory then what will happen if, as the indian defence expert claims, china percahnce abides by verma's claims? verma has made us all to fight. we are brothers. take to task this defence analyst but not the writer in nepal.

Commented by suit mainali - July 14, 2009 @ 7:18 AM

The article is good but still it lack some basic idea about the controversies lies in between China and India. I request the writer to be more elaborative. However, the message it intends to deliver is true and clear. I have read several article by Varat Barma in which his prejudice, biased and subject evaluation is deteriorating the fact. He uses to call India as a PACIFIST NATION without considering how it has nurtured terrorism in Pakistan, Srilanka, Maldives, China, Nepal, etc. We, the citizen of South Asia cannot forget how India had played an explicit role to split Bangladesh from Pakistan. India frequently involves itself to dismantle its neighboring country. Indian Media, its bureaucrats and politician are spreading anti-chinese sentiments in South Asia to demolish the popularity of China in public level. However, until now India is not success in this purpose. Indian, especially people like Varat Barma uses to accuse China for encroaching their land ignoring the fact that neither China, nor Tibet had ever accepted so-called MacMohan Line. British had neither invited officers of China or Tibet to discuss on the boarder issue. MacMohan had drawn line based on subjective evaluation sitting inside a room. Then how China can accept the proposal of India who calls China to accept MacMohan as a common boundary between then ? Indian accused China for invading then in 1962. However, the fact was that India had established army camp in the China's territory. Varat Varma says that China has made interprovincial roadways through India's land AKSAI CHIN. But the fact is that the land of Ladakh, Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim are still controversial, where India is patrolling in larger portion of disputed Land.

Commented by nepal ka beta - July 14, 2009 @ 7:18 AM

why is this panic| it is the comment made by an indian defence expert which has been taken in nepali perspective. the writer has provided some god tips for the indian government as well. comon yaar! we are brothers. no force on earth can split us, not the chinese at least. regards and have a nice afternoon dear indian bro(s)

Commented by nepali national - July 14, 2009 @ 7:10 AM

well said mr. MN. if india is around, nepal needs no enemy from abroad. try to feel nepali sentiments. study the treaties that we have with your country where we have ever remained cheated.this has been our fate since 1950s. try to understand your own government as to how she behaves with neighbors. i hope you will. thanks

Commented by jagadish shrestha - July 14, 2009 @ 7:01 AM

dear indian friends, cool down. try to understan the nepali anxiety. had india been a true friend and good neighbor, such articles must not have come to public. niraj has quoted your own defence expert and has put some of his thoughts as he sees it in nepal. be like good brothers, we are here to reciprocate the same. take it for granted. regards to all the annoyed friends in india and abroad. jagadish

Commented by prakash - July 14, 2009 @ 6:49 AM

I think there will be war between india and china. But I am not sure when? And if war breaks between india and china, Nepalese will stand in chinese side (because nepalese do not know much about china and chinese but know that india is a country with bad attitude toward nepal .Indian diplomats even do not follow basic norms and principles of friendship, they still have mindset of those british ligacy (of showing off that they are the masters and other are slave). At least chinese diplomats are more cultured than indian diplomats in kathmandu. By far we nepalese do not fear that china wants to invade Nepal,but india has already shown interest of invading Nepal by encroaching our land and raping and beating our children and women in border area. So, indians pleasae keep in mind that if you really want nepal to take neutral position in next india china war, you should change your habits in Nepal and Border regions. I fear if war breaks between india and china, millions of hungry people in india may fight against its own establishment. After all india is the worst country in the hunger list. Good luck indian fellows. I definitely will not fight or talk for indian side if there is war between our two big neighbour untill indians improve their manner.

Commented by Indian - July 14, 2009 @ 6:46 AM

though an Indian I agree with the author... as first few steps in the right direction - 1. India should shun all Nepalese from employment in India. 2. Chuck the Gorkhas back from where they came. 3. Close the open borders with Nepal, and let it survive at the mercy of its Chinese Gods. 4. Stop all forms of Aid to Nepal. Well these steps would help alot of Indians in being gainfully employed and save precious taxpayers money. As for Nepal and other smaller countries who cares if they end up in anarchy or make themselves a replica of African countries. If our internal security is ever threatened then just Nuke them, and create more space.

Commented by Raj - July 14, 2009 @ 6:42 AM

Dear indian brothers, we Nepalis will always hate political india as long it tries to rob us of our soverignty. However, do not generalise this as hating the citizens of india in general. We nepalis know that we share cultural and religious bonds that will be hard to simply ignore. But the issue of political India is very different. Indians themselves are a victim of it to an extent. So relax, there is no love lost. This type of article in fact was started by indians themselves in their media. I guess you have not read it. We Nepalis will share this love with indians based on mutual love and respect forever, but we want to stay away from political India. We want to deal with China and bring our political relationship closer. BUT that is not anti-india, it is simply trying to make Nepal grow and succeed more. China is an economic superpower, we can gain so much from China. But it does not mean that we will let China use Nepal for anti-india acitivities. My dear hindu brothers, instead fight against political India with us if you love Nepal. Remember Nepalis have fought for your independence once.

Commented by Jag Singh - July 14, 2009 @ 6:30 AM

Hi writer you are so <>and <>..Do you have guts to come out live and debate? I am sure you only know how to spread hate sitting behind the keyboard.I had so many freinds from nepal since my university days in banglore.Truck full of nepalies students were studying at same collage.We all had such a wonderfull and respectfull relationship with each other.India/Nepal thinking never use to come in our minds.We all used to have a such great positive attitude towards each other.How can you forget centuries old relationship between india and nepal.Mr. writer You thinking totally corrupt from deep inside and full of hate. Also if there are few diffrences cant they be solved sitting togather? If for some reason you are not happy with indian politicians/bureaucrats, is it hard to raise this in indian media to put pressure on them?

Commented by someone - July 14, 2009 @ 6:29 AM

The writer has missed the global picture and the aims of the new-world order. China will never dare to attack India because India has the backing of the US. But on the other hand the India of the future may not be the same one we see on the maps today.

Commented by harish kharel - July 14, 2009 @ 6:02 AM

dear indian brothers, well, we have no grievances with you people. we are definitely brothers. however, we are pained at the manner your bureaucrats and establishment twists nepali arms. this shocks and pains us. be pragmatic. come to nepal and see the indian interference of your diplomats. take it easy. we are brothers any way. academic discussions must take place so that you too can understanhd the nepali traumatic experiences beginning 1950 july 31. wish you all the best dear indian friends and brothers.the writer has just quoted your own defence expert by the way.

Commented by mauryan samrat - July 14, 2009 @ 5:21 AM

One sided biased article. India does have these problems but a country of 1.2 billion always have some kind of problem . .. lets put it for nepal . .acute poverty, religious conversion, madheshi andholans, maoist takeover, growing number of radical madarshas, detoriating relationship with its neighbour etc etc how does it sound not good isnt it?? also Tibet and xinjiang is 42 % of Chinese area kashmir and northeast is 10% of Indian area. India never hides her problem china does! Greater India was from (Baku )Azerbaijan till Bali have we ever put a claim on it? china is almost putting a calim on every country. If there wouldnt be any India, Russia and west china would have swallowed bhutan n nepal by now. I must say a friend like nepal India doesnt really need enemies . . .we do have more well wishers in paki media than the nepalese media.

Commented by sam - July 14, 2009 @ 5:02 AM

Dear Nepal brother 'Niraj Aryal' you can see above people comments that everybody indian buddys accepted you as a brother. As a brother this is not way of writing the articale.may be you know that indians having lesspower in the world when compare to pakistan and neibour country, you please comeout of your country and look with your open eyes how the indians are doing theire levelbest to sustain world to be peaceful.at the same way we we work for true, we leave for true,we want true to be rule in the world. if your our true brother, we will be leave in a family, otherwise we have to leave separetly my dear brother.my be you have the lessknowdge , try to learn vidhya from your brother and walk with him .

Commented by sanjay - July 14, 2009 @ 3:54 AM

it is sad to see that you are a true Nepali only if you are anti india..God

Commented by Rajk - July 14, 2009 @ 3:21 AM

Either the man is totally ignorant or anti-indian prejudice blinds him totally.People forget how big and vast india is.Maybe for a country like nepal, a maoist insurgency is an earthshaker.For India, these are problems,incidents and happenings in some part of India which are to be conrolled and resoved.It is NOT to say that these problems are small and non-serious.But at the same time one should not ignore the basic stability and capabilities of India and overstate them.Has any of these problems caused a total slowdown in India, a country wide general elections to be postponed or the military taking over.The author shld read world bank reports.Along with China India is one of the few countries that continues to grow even in recession time around the world.Would india continue to sustain its growth if these problems were absolutely crippling india.And for countries RINGING india. Pakistan,HAHAHAHAH.A war goes wrong in kargil and the elected leader is thrown aside in a military coup.In Kashmir, pak tried its best to meddle there.It thought it could bleed and tire india.Again like some, it was thinking from its own size and forgetting what India is.Today pak is on its knees, and kashmir quitest in years.All the problems of kashmir type are in pakistan now. Pak forgot that whatver pak threw at India,it could throw back ten times more at pak. Does anyone see how pakistan is living on the crumbs of the US and China.If saudis did not give them oil credit they wld not have oil.Right now pak is negotiating a bailout from the IMF.The pakis too know deep down that the love from china to them is ONLY because pak is its proxy against india.The CHINESE think ONLY of their own national interest.IT is LAUGHABLE as to how some in nepal see china as some how loving nepal for jst being nepal, and not as a PAWN in some big game.As for other neighbours, India srilanka and india bangladesh relations are not bad at this moment.Most sri-lankan know that after the LTTE killed rajiv gandhi, india has never supported the LTTE.In fact India diplomatic support and crucial naval patrolling across the coast between India nd sri-lanka was crucial in preventing an LTTE buildup or escape from and to India.Relations with Myanmar are very good.People shld see geography too.Where is mainland china and where is south asia. Please do read about the indian military and do not compare it with Nepal army or bhutan or sri lankan or bangladesh or mynamar army or even pak army.India has entire range of capabilities from Spy sattelites,communications, AWACS, heavy arillery, strategic airlift capabilities,airpower and what have you.It is not 1962 today, otherwise china wld have walked into arunachal years ago.China cannot walk into tiny taiwan, forget fighting India. China is big no doubt.But unlike pak, china faces India only from the mountains, and india has numerous maountain divisons, well entrenched and ready.Anywhere else, be it srilanka or mynmar or banglades, china wld be far far away from its mainland. In any case none of these countries have ever indicated that they wld be having military bases of china on their soil.Its not so easy.These countries ALSO have relations with other countries, say japan, south korea, ASEAN, who will not exactly be amused(What to say of India) if they start military alliances with china. China did not save pakistan in 1971 when India broke pakistan.When china did not support its BEST friend in 71, do you think myanmar or sri lanka or bangladesh will go around openly allying in a HOSTILE way with china.Lets not overstate Indias problems with neighbours.After all we are stuck by geography wehether we like it or not.Say for example, India supplies sr-lanka with 25% of its oil from India oil.Can sri lanka get it cheaper from CHINA.

Commented by Nepal citizen - July 14, 2009 @ 3:17 AM

India is our natural friend and relative nation. No second thought in this.

Commented by KC - July 14, 2009 @ 2:43 AM

Indians insisted on using the British colonial McMohan's Line to define their border with China. If Indians think that the British legacy is legitimate, then all the ... of Indians under the British rules were legitimate and well deserved!!! Indians should not be sympathized for their slavery under the British rules, because they like the British legacy tremendously!!!

Commented by true nepali - July 14, 2009 @ 2:29 AM

loved the article. Some one needs to teach India a lesson and straighten its hegemony against its neighbors. I hate India for its anti-Nepal policy where its constantly devouring our bordering areas, finances anti-Nepal fanatic group like Terai Tigers.. Down with India and its anti-neighbor policy.

Commented by MN - July 14, 2009 @ 1:53 AM

With friends like you, India needs no enemies

Commented by Ajay - July 14, 2009 @ 1:44 AM

The writer of this article is a person with fanatic mindset. It seems from the article that all Asian countries will be very happy if China attacks India and in the process there is unnecessary eulogy of Pakistan, Bangaldesh and Bhutan. The writer should have understood the economic consequences. Large no. of people from Nepal and Bangaladesh are getting organised or unorganised emplyment through their Indian association. Will China allow this type of activity. Since 1996 when mao gangsters started terror in Nepal, they started poisoning the minds of innocent Nepalis that India is the root cause of all the problems of Nepal. Now the same idiots out of sheer frustration are raising the ghost of China as they are out of power. Why did not Mahara go to China in place of going to India. Maoists should understand that China is a hegomonic nation and it always restricted to its own profit and loss. Once upon a time it was supporting Gyanendra, then Prachanda when they were in power. My appeal to Nepali brothers is that do not trust these rumour mongerers. There is century old beti-roti relationship between India and Nepal and it must continue. Of course in this so long relationship there will be charges and countercharges that we will solve amicably. But neither Indians nor Nepalese (other than Maoists)love to utter Chau-Mau-Chau-Mau. Tell these gangsters - Chau mau jab kahte ho to Bharat-Nepal me kyon rahte ho. Long live India-Nepal friendship.

Commented by Amit - July 14, 2009 @ 1:41 AM

Don't ever think that you can brainwash people with false propaganda as its done in China, there people are accustomed to it, here people need free and fair news. Sorry to say but this site is loosing it's relevance, its no more a Nepalese news paper.

Commented by Smile - July 14, 2009 @ 1:24 AM

Dear Kamal, I don't want to say anything about the article but it would better if Indians recall the day " Bakra lelo, hamein hamari jamin waapas dedo". India might have wiped out from the world map but that was absolutely right idea. So, we can't neglect the role of Indian people in past yearts. But if someone says Pakistan is weaker than India then it may be stupidness. Size and volume can't be taken as "Power" otherwise how Israel still exists in this world?

Commented by kamal - July 14, 2009 @ 1:03 AM

This article is shockingly stupid. Not only the writer is anti-India to his core, he lacks any geo-political visions whatsoever. He says patience of Pakistan is tested. What? Its India's patience that is tested. And even if Pakistan's patience was being tested, what could they do to India in a war? The writer makes it sound like Pakistan is some super power India should not test its patience. And again he says patience of Bhutan is tested. Are you completely stupid? I would seriously like to have an open chat with you, live in front of people, on geo-political topics like this. Just where the hell you get your info from? You also dont know anything about the military might of either China or India and world environment that comes into play when giants fight. The rules have changed and its not WWII anymore. Numbers matters but not that much. And also remember, attacking countries always require more resources and troops. You also forgot that Indian navy rules Indian ocean and there lies Malacca strait which is neck of Chinese economy. Also, you think SL will have guts or even reasons to fight war with India in case a war indeed breaks out in between India and China? Bangladesh? Myanmar? Let me tell you that I can bet no one other than Pakistan will ever think about jumping in the fight. I could go on and on about how stupid your article is, but I know its worth naught as all you harbor is anti-India sentiments. Seriously bro, have a live chat with me once. Lets see how much your so called 'analysis' is indeed worth something. Dont come crying when China finds some minuscule historical fact to claim its right over Nepal. India has been friend to Nepal for so long and I am sure that people like you are minority there, those who had some stake in maoist govt there.

Commented by tallanhok - July 14, 2009 @ 12:01 AM

US democracy only benefits US citizens but not the world. Any other country would have gone bankrupt with that kind of deficit but US dollar still dominates the world. Dictatorship in China benefits the world but not the Chinese people. The world enjoys cheap Chinese products but the Chinese gdp per capita is embarrassingly low. Lastly, Indian democracy is of no bloody good to her people and the world. It is understandable that the Indian academics are a frustrated lot.

Commented by S.Bedi - July 13, 2009 @ 11:47 PM

Agreed!

Commented by Karteek - July 13, 2009 @ 11:34 PM

its heartbreaking to read this pathetic article. I can say without any doubt that all Indians value freedom, human rights and of course sovereignty of other nations. May I remind that it was India who delivered Bangladesh after sufferring blows from Pakistan and China. It is India who stood up for Tibet when all nations including Nepal bowed to the Chinese pressure. India is not expansionist while china is. Remember Tibet. Once the US influence is diminished it is Nepal's turn. A stronger relationship with India is in Nepal's interest. We value our Nepalese friends wisdom and culture. India stands by you while your budding democracy grows up. Don't ignite anti-India feelings among Nepalese. With your reference to SriLanka, India paid utmost price risking a Tamil backlash while fellow Tamilians are brutally abused by the Sri Lankan army just so she does not interfere in Sri Lankas affairs. Please take back your baseless speculation about India fueling a separatist movement in Balochistan. What next are you also going to accuse India's role in the Uigher crisis in China? We all know that no one is showing no one any unconditional love. For example Nepal is playing the China card which is an open secret. are you ready to let chinese use your country as a base to launch attack on Inida? Remember an Asia without India balancing China. There will be no Asia there is going to be China. Please get your facts right before you throw the kitchen's sink. Regards Karteek

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